In Reply to Jim.

Jim wrote;

Hi.

The reason many Masons (especially in the northern US) discredit Pike is that they’re embarrassed by websites like this and quotes taken out of context like those above. The “knife & fork” Masons would much rather talk about what’s for dinner and how much money we’re raising for charity.

Masons such as myself would rather use Pike, Wilmshurt, Hall, Hafner and others to discuss what the Craft teaches us in terms of personal development. There are many things that Pike et al write that I just shake my head and sigh. But there are sometimes those great ideas and statements that just ring like a bell.

Pike in particular was a great defender of freedom. This is never discussed in forums like this. He railed against tyranny whether it came from the capitol or the pulpit. He encouraged the reader to learn more about his (i.e., the reader’s) God and build a stronger relationship.

In personal letters (not in M&D), we find that Pike was a devout Nazarene. He was quietly devoted to his faith and confident that it was the singular path to his salvation.

So, when we consider Pike or any of the other great Masonic authors, we have to do so in the totality of their work. Not just pulling off snippets out of context to look for “gotchas.”

Jim…

And also;

You mention that you were a Mason and left because you found it incompatible with your Christian beliefs. I am a Mason and do not find it so. Why do you feel there’s an incompatibility?

When you were made a Mason you were like instructed (as I was) to study your and learn more about your religion. How is this incompatible?

Looking forward to more details.

Jim…

Firstly, apologies for only replying now. I had an extremely hectic week and time was limited. But at last – here I am, back again.

Thank you for your comments Jim. In response to your first comment;

It is true that Pike is causing embarrassment to some masons and they do not acknowledge him as being representative of freemasonry at large. Personally, I understand that sentiment. For many masons that I know, freemasonry embodies the highest virtues that men and mankind can desire to attain and they are so blinded by this vision that they will defend vigorously any perceived attack on that organization that they hold so dear. To even the casual reader, Pike’s statements in his book Morals and Dogma seem to blatantly fuel the fires of many of these so-called attacks on freemasonry from churches and other religious organizations. For this very reason I can understand well why Pike is discredited nowadays by his own brethren.

As for your statement that quotations are used out of context I wish to say that I differ from opinion. The entire book is available from various sources on the internet free of charge. Anybody that is desirous to test the validity of any comment or quotation can do so very easily. I will add a link to the book on this blog for ease of access.

The high moral values that masons strive for and the great works of charity they do is indeed commendable. It gives the average mason such a warm and cushy feeling under their heart of hearts that they become completely blind to the obvious spiritual dangers they expose their spirit to. It is similar to a bunch of guys sitting around a table in a state of delirious peace and happiness, completely unaware that the house is on fire and even as smoke from the fire enters the room it is rebuked as an attack on their union, on their right to do good and be happy.

This site should be seen as a flashing warning light, as a fire warning. Watch out! The house is on fire! Get out before you burn in the fire!

In response to the second comment; read the articles published on the right hand side under the title, “Makes one think…”

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2 Responses to “In Reply to Jim.”

  1. Greg Says:

    I am a Mason and my Catholic religion and Masonry are fully compatible. You can quote every other book, author, and opinion until you are blue in the face…just find out for yourself.

    I am not easily influenced, nor am I easily discouraged. Every belief has its benefits and drawbacks and this is because it exists in the minds of men. My mind says Masonry is good for me and Catholicism is good for me.

    Spend as much time quoting the good and beneficial statements made by Pike and others regarding Masonry…you will have many…Seek and you will find (what you are looking for)!

    I prefer to look for the good in others and to look for the good in me.

  2. anothermouse Says:

    Consider this; the drawback of what you believe in might be that you will burn in the lake of everlasting fire for it.

    Believe it or not, I’m putting in time here for YOUR benefit! One day you will get it.

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